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New Paleo community

 Hi there!  My name is Kristen and I hope this is OK to post here (I looked in the rules and didn't see anything against linking other communities; if I am in error I do apologize!).  I created a new LJ community for eating Paleo - paleo_living  It is basically a way for me to keep on track with the Paleo way of eating as well as hopefully tracking my progess with fitness and weight loss.  I noticed this community has been inactive for almost a year, so I invite anyone who still wants to discuss Paleo to please visit my community and join in a discussion or create your own!

Intro post (sorry its rather long)

Hey everyone! I'm new to this community so I figured I would introduce myself.
I'm Ali and I just turned 24 (two days ago)
I'm a big believer in evolution and the real, Darwinian definition of fitness. I first discovered Crossfit through a friend 5 years ago. I discovered the Paleo diet through Crossfit but wasn't super intrigued until recently. I loved the theory behind Crossfit and discovered through experience how true the theory was. I feel that, like Crossfit, the theory behind Paleo is equally founded. I love how so many things I've recently been interested in have seemingly magically fit together perfectly. These being: Crossfit, Paleo, Vibram five fingers, foraging wild foods, grassfed sustainable meat, postindustrial food systems, local food and game meat. I haven't yet managed to completely switch over to Paleo, mainly due to the fact that we already have lots of modern food stocked in the house that we need to eat. I've managed to trade a friend home made yogurt for 2 lbs of trout and 2 pounds of venison her dad killed.
When I was in middle school I was chubby and was slim in high school (but have always had belly fat). In college I have been extremely active. I work out (crossfit, rock climbing, horseback riding) regularly and was careful with portions and staying away from refined carbs and sweets. I've never had a flat stomach EVER (yes, even doing crossfit, HIIT, climbing and riding and eating "well") I want to excel athletically and look good as well. I don't want to look like a model, I would like to look like the athlete I am.
I had some success with South Beach. The problem was I only lost weight on phase 1 and I felt sick the entire time. On phase 3, adding small amounts of whole grains and fruits, the puffiness around my stomach came back.
This summer, I was constantly active. Paddling 15 miles a day, hiking through deep sands carrying gear, dragging and carrying 150lb kayaks. Literally constant movement except at night when I was asleep, 6 days a week. Even with this extreme level of activity I still had puffiness around my Iliac crest (although I did loose about 10 pounds).
I am going to try to slowly convert to all Paleo in the next several weeks. My huge challenge will be staying on Paleo during the summer, when I literally live out of my kayak. We have no refrigeration and everything has to be packed into a dry bag and shoved into a kayak.

I've done quite a bit of research but I still have a couple of questions:
I absolutely love fruit. Can I eat as much as I want or do I need to worry about sugar level? I know to stay away from farmed blueberries. Are there other fruits I should stay away from?
What about almond and coconut flour? I've found recipes for baked goods that include almond flour and baking soda. is that allowed?
Also, ideas for breakfast? I'm getting really tired of eggs.

Hello world!

I just found this community and thought I'd do a brief introduction. I first came into contact with paleolithic eating when I worked as a language consultant on the Swedish translation of Loren Cordain's book The Paleo Diet (my job was basically to help translate all the scientific terms and proofread it since I'm both a part-time translator and have a Master's in Biotech engineering). Because of my science background, I've always been highly skeptical of fad diets and most of the current ones are no exception. To me, paleolithic eating is not a just another diet however, but just good plain common sense. It just comes down to eating what's good for you.

Anyway, about three years ago, I decided to really give this way of eating and living a try and followed the rules to the letter for four and a half months. I lost 25 lbs, my skin cleared up and I just felt great. Oh, and my teeth felt 100% clean all the time too. While I'd never dream of giving up brushing my teeth, I probably could have done so with no ill effects at that point. I have since fallen off the wagon to a degree (although I eat far less of your typical neolithic food items compared to the average person), and am now looking to get back on it. I love experimenting with new recipes so if I stumble across something that tastes good, I promise to post it.

Have a good day everyone!
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Liver recipes, anyone?

I picked up some beef liver at the farmers' market today. This will be my first go at eating organ meats because they're so good for us. I eat what some might consider weird things, but I was fine with introducing seaweed, coconut kefir, and cultured vegetables into my diet. Liver ... well, it's got a reputation for being disliked by many people. Would it work in a stew? Can you just cook it and eat it like you would a steak? Any suggestions for a recipe using liver, please?

Also, how can you tell when it's cooked through? I actually have been trying to cook my meat "restaurant raw" lately, keeping it pink in the middle, but I know nothing about cooking liver.

Thanks in advance.
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found this recipe thought people might like it

1 whole egg
1 egg yolk
1/2 teaspoon dry mustard
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon pepper
1/4 teaspoon paprika, optional
1/2 teaspoon Mrs. Dash Table Blend, optional
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 tablespoon white vinegar
1 1/2 cups oil

Put the chopping blade in your food processor and add everything except the oil. Process about 5 seconds. With the processor running, very slowly let the oil drizzle in a steady stream through the feed tube. Blend just until the mayonnaise is thick for a creamier mayonnaise. Blend an additional 2-3 minutes for a much thicker mayo.

Makes about 1 3/4 cups
Do not freeze

Per Tablespoon: 108 Calories; 12g Fat; trace Protein; trace Carbohydrate; trace Dietary Fiber; trace Carbs
Per 1/4 cup: 434 Calories; 48g Fat; 1g Protein; .5g Carbohydrate; trace Dietary Fiber; .5g Net Carbs

ARTICLE: Do we need the extra water? (Primitive man & water...)

I was reading this article this morning and was reminded of a few thoughts I've have about hunter-gatherers and water. This is a subject that madisonmassage and I definitely don't agree on. I think the '8 glasses of water a day' ideal is a myth. He thinks it's excellent advice. I don't think dehydration is good for us either, I know I feel crappy and kind of hung-over when I'm dehydrated- but the office workers in meetings with bottled water is totally unnecessary in my opinion. (not to mention the wasted bottles!)

Benefits of Drinking 8 Glasses of Water a Day Questioned

"Their review, published in the Journal of the American Society of Nephrology, concluded that people in hot, dry climates, athletes or people with certain diseases might do better with increased fluid intake, but for average healthy people, more water did not seem to mean better health."
Applying this to primitive man, I think about his opportunities to drink throughout the day. Assuming that the most primitive didn't have a way to carry water with them, they probably would have drunk at the source. That brings me to my next thought, and that's that they probably rarely ate and drank at the same time. In fact, I believe that drinking while eating probably does a great deal to impair digestion, especially considering that the acid our stomachs produce would have to be diluted by any supplemental fluid. I notice too that my pets don't eat and drink at the same time either, even though their food and water are side by side.

I'd love to hear any thoughts anyone has on this. :D
shoulder angels

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I've been doing a lot of thinking about my lifestyle. I have been going back and re-reading posts and articles in this community all weekend. I've been really mulling this over. I want to try to move towards a paleo style of living. The issues I'd like to correct by this change are:

-Obesity (I am 5'5 and 200 pounds)
-Narcolepsy (I don't know what kind of an impact can be made, but I'm willing to find out. I think eating the way we were meant to eat might mean more energy. And if not, then at least the rest of me is healthier and so this will be easier to deal with.)
-Acne (It's gotten WORSE since highschool, and the heavier I am the worse it gets.)
-Irregular periods and painful cramps

From what paleo_huntress has written here from her experiences, many of these things can be affected positively by following a paleo lifestyle.

In other words, it's not just about weight. I have tried Weight Watchers before, and it did work for me. I lost all 30 pounds I wanted to (I was much less overweight at the time). I stopped following it and gained the weight back, however. But some of what I've learned about what's in  foods these days--corn for example, the trans fats, after reading the article on Oiling America...I think it's important to make changes that don't just affect appearance. That affect being and feeling.

I've got some pretty bad eating habits, but I've been told if you stop doing a bad habit for two weeks, half your struggle is over. I'd like to be a little extreme to kind of detox myself--I want to cut out all (refined) sugars for two weeks, at least, since that's where I will struggle the most. I'd also like to give up bread, and pasta. I can't help but keep small amounts of granola (1/4 of a cup maybe every other day) in my diet for now. That I may need to be weened off of to be perfectly honest!!!

My main concerns are being able to afford organic foods--especially meats. There are several places around me to buy them but they are much more expensive than average. Organic vegetables and fruits are a little more manageable. I would also like to support cruelty free meat--I've been aware of it for quite awhile now. (When did these things become a luxury instead of a necessity?! That's another post.) For myself and my partner, we have a grocery budget of around $300.00 a month, which includes toiletries, cat food and litter, and cleaning products for the kitchen and house. You can imagine the kind of cheap carbs we've been buying in bulk!

I guess I'm wondering how you all started, what you found useful, what you found harmful. Any tips or tricks? I'm heading off to the bookstore right now for some books, and I've been rereading the past posts all weekend. It'll probably take some more research and prep before I actually start this, but I'd like to this month.
bare bones


I joined this community to get a better idea of the whole concept, and admittedly I haven't paid as much attention as I had intended to (I need to make more time for following topics I'm interested in). Occasionally I do go back and reread too. I guess I'm asking you to forgive me if this is out of place, but I saw and instantly thought I should post it. I can't hear the sound at work, so this may just be a crap little pop culture myths bit from Yahoo...but true or not I guess it could fit into the conversation here.